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Filipino SPANISH Wanna Be

Then this person makes me laugh. While I was reading his letter, I couldn't help think, "What the fuck?" Also I bet he thinks he's Filipino AND SPANISH *LOL*

Blood does not know what one's race is

There is no race blood. The races do not have race blood. The races have human blood.

The Hawaiians do not have Hawaiian blood. The Hawaiians do not have one-half Hawaiian blood required to attend Kamehameha School for Hawaiians built and run by Hawaiian Bernice Pauahi Bishop's trust. The Hawaiians have human blood, so they donate to the hospitals human blood banks.

The American Indians do not have Indian blood. The American Indians have human blood, so they donate to the hospitals human blood banks.

Hawaii's population has human blood. Mainland U.S. population has human blood.


Pedro A. Badua
Ewa Beach


Seen at http://starbulletin.com/2005/05/12/editorial/index.html

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haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 04:42 pm (UTC)
LOL Yeah... I knew the M.D. would point out something like that
de_wynken
May. 12th, 2005 04:33 pm (UTC)
So he's saying that we're all human. He's right. But that's not the point when dealing with genetics. Blood Quantum is a mislabel..I would guess some people would actually think it goes by how much blood you have in you (laughs).
haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 04:41 pm (UTC)
Yeah... that's why I laugh because on one level he's right that we are all human. Then I think about how many Hawaiians are treated as less than human. Then I think about how it doesn't allow for ethnic pride.
tuftedpuffin
May. 12th, 2005 05:53 pm (UTC)
Clearly symbolism is lost on him.
haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 10:36 pm (UTC)
His words surprised me considering that he's a "minority" in this country.
yeloson
May. 12th, 2005 05:57 pm (UTC)
True, physically our blood is all human. But that doesn't mean my mother is your mother. Or that the last 3 generations of my families are the last 3 generations of your families. Or that the concerns and life that shaped my people, and through them, me, is what shaped you.

Not everyone's father went through the Viet Nam War. Not everyone's mother dealt with Catholic shame and abuse. Not everyone's grandfathers were in WWII. Not everyone's grandmother had to come over a paper "sister". But mine did. And their experiences, and their cultures are important to me, because it played into how my family treated me, and how I grew up.

It's not their blood alone, but even if I was adopted by strangers, the fact that I'm biracial would drastically affect how people treat me, and that alone, would be important to be aware of. We are all human, but we also have differences, just as men and women are both human, but men are not women, and women are not men (genetically, anyway).
haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 10:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah... it seems as though while he focuses on how similar we are... we are also different. And you make good points... as usual.
ete
May. 12th, 2005 07:17 pm (UTC)
i think you guys all missed the point. how unfortunate.
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ete
May. 13th, 2005 06:03 pm (UTC)
you really think that's what he's saying? to get over it?

here's my earlier response:

what i've noticed is that people read between the lines, fill in the blanks, and analyze things until all true meaning is lost from what was being said. this happens all the time because people are missing the point. they aren't listening! they're too preoccupied with themselves. but that's very human also.

discounting people's heritage? how many different ways does someone have to say something to be heard?

i just feel that there are things like this: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4006 that need to be addressed, rather than an exerpt(usg?) by someone who actually wants unity in the world. he's not discounting the uniqueness of the peoples of the world; but he's attempting to remind us that we are ALL here and we should try to work with eachother, not band against eachother. that is why i say that if you've missed the point it is very unfortunate.



so the negative message you are receiving is stuff like "get over it" and "move on".

the message that he, and people like him, are trying to convey is, "let's move forward, together".

supposing there is a good parent with many children. when that parent tells his/her children that they are all loved unconditionally, unequivocally and that they should always love eachother and take care of eachother, the same goes for the children of earth. it's not that the parent doesn't see each child's unique individuality, but the parent loves them all the same. all of the siblings are the same but they are different. they bicker and fight over the most trivial things, but the most trivial of things also brings them together at times.

color blind is a wonderful term. i'm sorry you don't get it.
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ete
May. 13th, 2005 07:46 pm (UTC)
you can make something you don't understand mean anything...
Sure, we have to move forward together, but not as clones of one another.

do you really think that's what people like him mean? that would be very hitleresque, don't you think? no one is talking about not having any differences, nor not embracing eachother's differences, nor ignoring and glossing over the past, present, and the possibility of those atrocities of continuing int the future.

You're reading in a positive messsage to his words as assuredly as I'm reading in a negative one.

actually, i'm just reading them for what they are. it's hard for me to find anything negative in what he's said.

Just because I SEE and RECOGNIZE that someone is Hawaiian or whatever else, doesn't mean I don't believe in a unified humanity.

let's hope that's not the first or only thing you see and recognize in a person.
haolegirl
May. 13th, 2005 07:51 pm (UTC)
Re: you can make something you don't understand mean anything...
For the record... amaliemd is white and (I believe) is in residency to be a doctor in Pennsylvania. She is one person who tries to understand other people and has been understanding of other people. For her to even want to communicate with indigenous people, to want to learn what indigenous people have to say, and to try to see them as human beings... tells me that she is an understanding person.
ete
May. 13th, 2005 07:53 pm (UTC)
Re: you can make something you don't understand mean anything...
you can be the most understanding person and still misunderstand things.
haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 10:38 pm (UTC)
In a way he is discounting many people's heritage, history, and/or traditions. To me... that's a bad thing even if we are human. Many Hawaiians are treated as less than human. That's what I've noticed.
ete
May. 13th, 2005 05:48 pm (UTC)
what i've noticed is that people read between the lines, fill in the blanks, and analyze things until all true meaning is lost from what was being said. this happens all the time because people are missing the point. they aren't listening! they're too preoccupied with themselves. but that's very human also.

discounting people's heritage? how many different ways does someone have to say something to be heard?

i just feel that there are things like this: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4006 that need to be addressed, rather than an exerpt(usg?) by someone who actually wants unity in the world. he's not discounting the uniqueness of the peoples of the world; but he's attempting to remind us that we are ALL here and we should try to work with eachother, not band against eachother. that is why i say that if you've missed the point it is very unfortunate.
haolegirl
May. 13th, 2005 05:52 pm (UTC)
I did notice how his words spoke of unity but he stated this too, "The Hawaiians do not have Hawaiian blood" and I don't know about you... but I take issue with that. Also whenever I write about something here it's always going to be biased so since I took issue with him stating that Hawaiians do not have Hawaiian blood then I look at that part as a piece to the puzzle instead of looking at one or a few things.
ete
May. 13th, 2005 06:09 pm (UTC)
there are times to pick something apart to find the real meaning behind it all, but if you do that with everything, some of the important things will go by unnoticed.
haolegirl
May. 13th, 2005 06:17 pm (UTC)
I should have made it more clear but in one of my responses I stated,

"Yeah... that's why I laugh because on one level he's right that we are all human. Then I think about how many Hawaiians are treated as less than human. Then I think about how it doesn't allow for ethnic pride."

For me... I try not to look at things at face value but he stated a couple of things that were offensive to me:

1) The Hawaiians do not have Hawaiian blood.

2) The American Indians do not have Indian blood.

Of course it is nice that he is promoting unity but how can we unite if it offends some people and I'm sure that I'm not the only one.

Also what if his point or one of his points was not what you see and instead was to discredit indigenous people. He mentions Hawaiians and American Indians. Why not point out Chinese or Japanese people? He didn't so that is why I perceived it to be the way that I did because he only mentioned Hawaiians and American Indians. That tells me that he probably thinks that our pain as indigenous people is trivial and I'm not okay with that. Therefore I write about it.

Also from his name he doesn't seem to be indigenous so how would he possibly know what indigenous people go through? It's great that he wants unity but he doesn't know how it is to be indigenous and even if he was indigenous... he cannot possibly speak for all indigenous people.
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p0stmdrnpr1mt1v
May. 12th, 2005 07:24 pm (UTC)
I was just talking about how I can recall memories of seeing wounded knee on tv when I was a little kid and thinking maybe the army was coming after me too. my mom had told me that I was Indian. it wasnt until I got older that the "part Indian" thing ever came up. kids at my mostly white school let me know I was different. all I knew was that I was Indian, not "part Indian". I knew my dad was white and I had a lot of white ancestry but I also didnt thin in terms of my being "part".
at the same time Indians were only talked about in the past tense. you can do the math on how this affected me.

anyway ya, to me it's about decendancy, and all this blood quantum junk is only invented to deal with dividing land rights and claim settlements, and to foster division for the old "divide and conquer" routine.
haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 10:41 pm (UTC)
I hate the blood quantum thing but even if I hate it... I use it so that I can adequately represent my ancestors. A Catch-22.
jkrissw
May. 15th, 2005 07:44 pm (UTC)
Well, there had to be SOME method of determining who was entitled to the stuff due Indians from treaty obligations. If there weren't, you'd have people who had one - for example - Kiowa great-great grandparent (1/16th)claiming full rights to it.
p0stmdrnpr1mt1v
May. 12th, 2005 07:25 pm (UTC)
ps. I reeealy like that icon.
haolegirl
May. 12th, 2005 10:42 pm (UTC)
Which one? This one? LOL I actually have a paddle that says, "Good" and "Bad." I like to use the "Bad" side alot heehee
gothic_hybrid
May. 12th, 2005 07:28 pm (UTC)
Race is a dubious term, and there is no scientific proof of the exsistence of races, this is what the guy is trying to get at. genetically we are all the same. that is why there is no such thing as Homo sapien chinaeus or Homo sapien indianaues. Hell we almost have the same genome as an apple.
Peace. Culturally we are different, but genetically, there is no difference.
haolegirl
May. 13th, 2005 07:52 pm (UTC)
"Culturally we are different, but genetically, there is no difference."

That is what I wish he had included.
jkrissw
May. 15th, 2005 07:41 pm (UTC)
My favorite response to someone discussing "race" is to say "there's only one race that counts for anything", which often leads them to wonder if I'm going to say my own ("white"), but I follow up with "the HUMAN race".

Because the people who stayed in Africa continued to develop genetically, there's more genetic variety in a typical small African village than there is in a whole American or European city - according to the video in National Geographic's Genographic Project kit.
jkrissw
May. 15th, 2005 07:25 pm (UTC)
National Geographics Genographic Project
Here's the link to order their kit to participate in this study. They've gone around the world taking DNA samples of lots of different indigenous peoples, and have pieced together the information to show how we're all related.

I just got my kit, which has a map, an id number (so you can look up the results on the internet once they've analyzed your sample), two swabs and the stuff to ship them in, and a very interesting DVD. The DVD has selections that talk about the study, the lab techniques used, and a fascinating video (about 90 minutes, I think, but I wasn't counting) narrated by one of the project heads that goes all over the world, ending with him talking with some Navajos in Canyon de Chelly.

It costs about $100.

(cross-posted to my own journal)
honeyviper
May. 15th, 2005 07:30 pm (UTC)
Also I bet he thinks he's Filipino AND SPANISH *LOL*

HAHAHAHHA! That had me laughing my ass off!! Of course he does! It would be shocking if he didn't.
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